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  Circuit Overseer to Answer My Questions + Concerns...or Not

  by Research in

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  hello all, i'm 'researching', a jw who is in the first steps of taking a look at their beliefs.. i've semi-recently (about a couple weeks ago) heard about the sexual abuse cases (pennsylvania attorney general’s investigation request) and then the arc in 2015. this lead to a deep investigation, which lead to many questions arising.

  a jw friend of mine suggested i be careful (due to apostates) and ask the brothers.

  so i typed up my questions + concerns and emailed an elder my mother has known for a long time.

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  Well done for doing the research, it is important to fully understand your subject so when the elders or CO give an answer you don’t allow them to brush you off or focus on the less important questions while skimping over the really important questions, find one or two really important points and stick with them until you Get satisfactory answers, for me an important question regarding child sex abuse is-

  if we are living in the time of the end and JW’s are gods only true people on Earth and they have the job of sanctifying or vindicating his name then when the elders have been through a judicial with an accused paedophile and they only have one witness so they leave it in Jehovah‘s hands and then the paedophile commits another crime, why would Jehovah allow this? Why would he want his name associated with child sex abuse? Why wouldn’t he want his name to appear exemplary?

  I’m not sure if this is what you’re looking for but I really hope you do find the real truth behind the matter
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  Pennsylvania Attorney General investigating WT for child abuse coverups

  by krismalone in

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  2. scandals

  https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/02/08/jehovahs-witnesses-under-investigation-pennsylvania-attorney-generals-office/2425260001/.

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  Is this is the US version of the Royal Australian commission??
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  Kingdom-Shop Hall

  by scruffmcbuff in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was driving through the high street in highbrooms, royal tunbridge wells, uk yesterday.. in amongst the shop fronts was something ive never seen before.

  a large shop front with big glass windows,posters in the windows saying "start your free bible study today" (or something along those lines.

  where the shop name would be there was a large jw.org logo and a blue banner.

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  Hi, yes it is a Kingdom Hall have been there many times, it has just had a re-Ferb which is only completed a month ago so this is the new look kingdom! Are you local to the area?
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  "End of All Kingdoms in 1914!" 8-30-1914 World Magazine PDF!

  by cabasilas in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  over the past 50 odd years, an article that was published in a new york city newspaper in 1914 has been quoted several times in watchtower publications.

  this article was published in the august 30, 1914 world about pastor c.t.

  russell's predictions for 1914. modern watchtower publications omit the facts from that article that show that russell's predictions for 1914 do not match the watchtower society's current understanding of 1914 as a "marked year.

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  I have managed to get the first few pages but not page 4 so if anyone did have it that would be really helpful, thanks advance
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  Powerful Sayings That Means A Lot For You Personally

  by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just was thinking how some powerful quotes, remarks, sayings hit the mark with me and how much it enriched/ enhamced/influences my life.

  love beyond color.

  reality is that which when you no longer believe in it , does not go away.. “the truth is a battle of perceptions.

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  Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories of your loved ones.

  Marcus Aurelius
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  The Church Father's "70 years"

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in their letter to lobsto regarding the neo-babylonian chronology, the wts wrote the following regarding the early church fathers:.

  less than 200 years after josephus, several early church writers clearly accepted that the length of the desolation or exile was 70 years, and no one gives any other length for this event.

  for instance, tatian the assyrian (110 to 172 c.e.

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  Hi Doug,

  Fantastic post exactly what I was looking for

  thanks
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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  Johnamos

  excellent work, fantastic explanation, thank you
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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  Doug Mason

  Having written to my uncle about 607 he says he has spent the last few months working on a reply, I am sure he would have written after the society, when I spoke to him recently he mentioned the letter and said did I know that Josephus had also put 70 years desolation for Jerusalem in his book Against Apion a few pages before saying 50 years desolation for Jerusalem, I had told him I wasn’t aware of this, but did go home and look it up, but having read the letter that has been put on this chat as well as other comments it is quite clear that this must be a new ‘book reply’ from the watchtower Regarding 607, having really enjoyed the way you destroy their arguments from the watchtower 2011 if you have time could you do the same with this letter? Hope you don’t mind me asking, all the best
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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  Is Scholar a troll??
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  Need Help: My Correspondence with the Headquarters

  by Lobsto in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a month ago i sent a letter to the us branch about 607. my purpose for sending it was because i wanted to show to my parents through the letters the truth behind the date system.

  two days ago, i received a response from them.

  i think this is gonna be the first of many.

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  Hi, I am having a discussion very similar to this with my family, so I will follow very closely any comments and further information provided, the more the better! One thing that jumped out to me was they claim around 11 discrepancies in the cuneiform record, if you have 50,000 cuneiform tablets and only 11 discrepances that is a massive piece of evidence to show the accuracy of the cuneiform record